Monday, 23. june 2008 1 23 /06 /Juni /2008 07:38
Further Elucidation

All the coherences are quite difficult to explain, but I try my best to clarify things. And I kick my brother every day in the butt to give me more information.

 Avatars:

Cris had 3 avatars

Cristopher Whitfield:
The main account and the company account of the WHJ later. Banker Jenkins had access to this account, also Jalla and Cris. After a little noise in the house, access was
denied. I myself losened the restrictions to prevent uncontrolled things happening. After the "death" of
Cris, I have called LL, and asked them to transfer the islands to me.

At this time his account was FROZEN, not locked. That means he could not log in anymore,
but the islands remained.

Generally, the meaning of being frozen is the following: If an avatar is in arrears with payments ,
he can pay his debts within 1 week, without anything happening. If not, then the access to
login is blocked.

IMPORTANT: All items that were placed before in World remain FULLY functional, and can continue to generate money. Every object, or camper, or rent box is working.
Since the rent boxes continued receiving payments, the funds from the boxes and my
Avi were split, with 80% of the total. The campers have been held, as they brought traffic and thus more people rented. The money from the rents, you find safely on Steffen Boltons Account, it's about $ 135,000.

But Cris had no opportunity to remove the campers or Lucky chairs because he no longer could login, but he asked Emas later to remove them.
The account of Cris is now ON HOLD, that is totally blocked. I always phone call LL to close the account completely down, but they work very slowly.

After a long discussion with Cris, I found out that there was still Charlet Hastings, which then finally erased these items. Unfortunately, I learned too late about this possibility,because Cris always said that she only has paying functions.

Charlet Hastings:
This account was established earlier as Rent Bot Avi, and should only use rental boxes use, as most rental boxes ran on her behalf. Today no longer ..

She had probably made disbursements, and the Admin.
Quite earlier, there has been a friend of Cris, who managed the security situation Avi, but she vanished, when the payments and the security buffer of

the WHJ were up ..... You see, not so simple ......

Maiden Horton:
Again, the Avi was a Avi, managed by Cris, but it had NOTHING to do with the WHJ, it was only for the work in London made. It was most important to Cris to work there in peace,not always interrupted by IMs. He has not earned much there, think of 10% of the rent boxes. But there were never many renters, as the rents were far too expensive.

After Cris realized he couldn't do anything there, and he probably abandoned, and the Avi was given to the London Sims. This avi is completely independent since then
and used by the london sims. Personally I have no contact to the people there.

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Steffen Bolton: (no alt of Cris)
Steffen came up when Cris asked me to make an account for fun.
I did it then, but I have never done much in SL. Cris has played around with it.
When I realized that Cris was no longer physically nor mentally able to continue his work,
we had long conversations, NOT in the slightest way any thoughts about planning a death ... etc.
Cris was always adviced by me and by others to give away responsibility, and Banker ALWAYS said that he would take over, and he did.
That he posted then the death of Cris, it wasn't clear to me, and either to Cris, first as Cris read it on the website of the WHJ ..... puh
Cris called Banker, and asked him how to go on, as he did not feel well with the entire story. I was informed later when it already went further.
I talked with Banker, he said, it would be the only way to give Cris some rest to recover .....
Now, it went on.

.... Lies about lies ...

About the figures, the so-called fraud, is not true.
Because if you only see what people had paid only as pure investment, and what at the time of the Royal Bank was paid of interests, then you quickly get to the clarity that the system has eaten itself. More later.

After that I could convince LL of the death of my brother (without death documents) and to transfer the islands to me, in the belief that I still had 4 weeks to pay the
costs for the islands.
BUT WRONG .... While they didn't charge Cris, they charged me about 1 week later it expected
under the topic: NEW CYCLE.
The transferred the islands 1 day before the new cycle to me, then they charged the costs. I complained, but no answer. However I wasn't able to reimburse that cost at this time, because I have no Payment information on File. Thus I could not even use the money of L$ to reduce the costs. Until now LL had no other option to pay money, unless you have a credit card,and I did not.
Now I know that you also can transfer money through other institutions easily, which are paid to the Avi then. Wise afterwards. So this source of revenue (sale of islands) bursted. Sure, I get offers from people who wanted to buy the islands, but LL can only transfer islands to others, if the sale account is clear what was not the case,

see the screenshot.

In addition, most tenants have used up their rent, and many have no longer claim to be refunded because the rent was finished. This only incidentally.
Cris is in contact to other tenants and I think this wild group [watersedge, LPZ] had only in mind to get
tenants, and Emas only wanted to help the tenants to accommodate. But that was probably the wrong partners.
I will talk to LL on Monday, and there also clarify, at least what the truth is concerned. Although I do not know what will happen, but better be honest now than continue.
Although I think that there wiil be zero interest ... anyways.

Now to Banker and Jalla,
hm, also a thing, which I do not understand. I had discussions with Banker,
he repeatedly assured that he continued to care for all. Well and one day
he left the WEBsite and EVEN deleted his account.
With the cancellation, the system also deleted all POSTS of him, thus you can not
find anything of him there. I repeatedly called him via phone and so did Cris,
but nothing except assurances. 
Also Emas hasn't apologized until know ... really great ....
Jalla is more a special case, although he knew about the lie, but he didn't interfere any further,
and then wrapped in silence ....

I am alone, and Cris is the evil .... Truely nice, what do you think?.
Cris now holds the cheek, and the others remain more intact in SL (or wherever)
It is tragic for me and hard to understand how everything has come to this, but I will do
the necessary efforts to continue the things just to move. Even though noone any longer trusts
in me, what I understand, I won't go away.
Again and again we were asked why we do not have left simply, well, Cris feels obliged to refund
the payments, although at a bankruptcy with so no entitlements. But he will continue until the
L $ are back to their owners.

Hope I could continue to clarify

regards

Steffen

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Nobody is interested. When do we get to see the repayment schedule ?? .
Kommentarnr1 gepostet von Morphine am 23.06.2008 um 17h42
Ok that was the story but HOW and WHEN do we get our L$ back??
Kommentarnr2 gepostet von Eatsome Donat am 23.06.2008 um 20h10
"Die WHJ-SL ging pleite. Dieser blog dient allen Menschen zur Aufarbeitung" mit anderen Worten "Kotzt euch hier aus um endlich damit fertig zu werden dass Eure Kohle entgültig futsch ist."
Kommentarnr3 gepostet von Eatsome Donat am 23.06.2008 um 20h14
Thanks for clearing it al up. It's obvious to me (although i seem to be one of the few) that you are trying hard to correct a mistake, and hope you won't be put off by all those people who just keep going on about a few L$. You're one of the few who don't run off, and still i see nothing but abuse after everything you say. Don't let them bother you too much, i'm pretty sure that most of the would have just dissapeared when getting in the situation you did. Then again, it's easier to shout and complain when you're not the one who is having the problems. i appreciate that you are trying to sort things out, and think it shows character to own up to everything the way you did. That fact alone proves that you are probably more thrustworthy now then all the people who shout at you in these and other posts. Thanks for continuing to work at solving things.
Kommentarnr4 gepostet von Natasja Koenkamp am 25.06.2008 um 02h16
ABER: Ich gebe NICHT auf, bekomm noch runde 14.000L$, 30% hab ich sowieso schon Verlust. Wie sieht es mit einem Rückzahlungsplan aus?
Kommentarnr5 gepostet von Eatsome Donat am 25.06.2008 um 07h27
So now it suddenly was Banker's idea to post Cris' death... That's new to me and very easy to say about someone who quit and can't be reached in any way anymore, don't you think ?
Kommentarnr6 gepostet von Rowley Igaly am 26.06.2008 um 04h31
It does not really matter whom idea it was,
it only matters, that Cris was not the only one
in the manager group. But some ignore this
without any matter , to what I say or do.

(translated by Miss Himmeler)
Antwort von Steffen Bolton am 26.06.2008 um 09h07
I appreciate the efforts that have been and are being made to wind down the affairs of the Royal Bank and WHJ in as fair a manner as possible in what was an impossible situation. Everyone should remember that the trouble was started by LL effectively outlawing banking in SL and giving an impossibly short time for SL banks to adapt to the new rules. If people want to complain about the loss of their money, they should do so to LL.
Kommentarnr7 gepostet von Aelred Huet am 26.06.2008 um 17h57

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